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		<title>By: sugarsarah</title>
		<link>http://www.animesfree.com/we-got-hit-hard-by-dmca/comment-page-2/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator>sugarsarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol ur a funny little man bruce i didnt know we were fighting</description>
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		<title>By: BruceMcF</title>
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		<dc:creator>BruceMcF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ sugarsarah: &quot;lol yep deathroy was right bruce u cant seen to shut up&quot;

Ouch, a personal attack from someone on a bloodsucker site. &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Oh! The Pain!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.

Normally, when people resort to personal attacks online, it means they are not able to offer an actual counter argument. So I read that comment as an admission of defeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ sugarsarah: &#8220;lol yep deathroy was right bruce u cant seen to shut up&#8221;</p>
<p>Ouch, a personal attack from someone on a bloodsucker site. <b><i>Oh! The Pain!</i></b>.</p>
<p>Normally, when people resort to personal attacks online, it means they are not able to offer an actual counter argument. So I read that comment as an admission of defeat.</p>
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		<title>By: Vampt Vo</title>
		<link>http://www.animesfree.com/we-got-hit-hard-by-dmca/comment-page-2/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>Vampt Vo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t find the previous comments to respond to them, since for some reason all I can see now is the most recent ones. Whatever, I&#039;ll respond to the one point that stuck out in my mind.

Animesfree, you wondered if any of us knew anything about how young anime fans feel about watching anime, and if any of us were even young people to begin with. I&#039;ll have you know that I am a college freshman, meaning that I am young and I don&#039;t have a lot of money (the two types of people that you said FUNi doesn&#039;t care about). So to answer your question: Yes, I *do* know what young anime fans go through - I talk to people about it every day. And what I hear from nearly every fan I talk to is a strong disdain of the entire legal industry, with no factual basis whatsoever. They say that anime is free to watch online, so I&#039;m an idiot for paying so much for DVDs.

Think about that. Kids try to say that I&#039;m an idiot for PAYING for my entertainment. You want to know why people like me keep coming back to argue these points with you? It&#039;s not because we work for FUNimation or have any attachment to the company. It&#039;s because we care about the anime medium as a whole, and we are disgusted by people who propagate a view that anime is a worthless, disposable type of entertainment that can be found for free online with no effort whatsoever.

One of the best ways of describing the attitude that this site and ones like it espouse is this question: How much would you be willing to pay for a 13-episode anime series? A few of you said you buy DVDs, but for the majority of anime fans, the answer to that question would be &quot;zero dollars,&quot; since anime can be found for free so easily. That means that, to a majority of anime fans, the cartoons that they love so much are worth nothing to them. If that&#039;s the kind of atmosphere that you and other sites want to exist in, then God help the animators in Japan, the majority of whom labor well under the poverty line in order to create this stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find the previous comments to respond to them, since for some reason all I can see now is the most recent ones. Whatever, I&#8217;ll respond to the one point that stuck out in my mind.</p>
<p>Animesfree, you wondered if any of us knew anything about how young anime fans feel about watching anime, and if any of us were even young people to begin with. I&#8217;ll have you know that I am a college freshman, meaning that I am young and I don&#8217;t have a lot of money (the two types of people that you said FUNi doesn&#8217;t care about). So to answer your question: Yes, I *do* know what young anime fans go through &#8211; I talk to people about it every day. And what I hear from nearly every fan I talk to is a strong disdain of the entire legal industry, with no factual basis whatsoever. They say that anime is free to watch online, so I&#8217;m an idiot for paying so much for DVDs.</p>
<p>Think about that. Kids try to say that I&#8217;m an idiot for PAYING for my entertainment. You want to know why people like me keep coming back to argue these points with you? It&#8217;s not because we work for FUNimation or have any attachment to the company. It&#8217;s because we care about the anime medium as a whole, and we are disgusted by people who propagate a view that anime is a worthless, disposable type of entertainment that can be found for free online with no effort whatsoever.</p>
<p>One of the best ways of describing the attitude that this site and ones like it espouse is this question: How much would you be willing to pay for a 13-episode anime series? A few of you said you buy DVDs, but for the majority of anime fans, the answer to that question would be &#8220;zero dollars,&#8221; since anime can be found for free so easily. That means that, to a majority of anime fans, the cartoons that they love so much are worth nothing to them. If that&#8217;s the kind of atmosphere that you and other sites want to exist in, then God help the animators in Japan, the majority of whom labor well under the poverty line in order to create this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: sugarsarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sugarsarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol yep deathroy was right bruce u cant seen to shut up</description>
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		<title>By: OldManKC</title>
		<link>http://www.animesfree.com/we-got-hit-hard-by-dmca/comment-page-2/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>OldManKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of the comments that are supporting this site and what they&#039;re are doing aren&#039;t really sure of the context in which this site exists.  

Anime streaming sites didn&#039;t exist 10-15 years ago, your options to procur anime were 1) purchase legally licensed/distributed products, 2) acquire fansubs (which certainly weren&#039;t as easily obtained as they are today, were mostly titles that weren&#039;t licensed here yet, and nowhere near the quality digital media offers) 3) dub someone elses&#039;s VHS or LD (ignoring purchasing bootlegged material or fansubs, as they essentially fall under option 3).  Keep in mind anime was a LOT more expensive then, $30-40 for a subtitled VHS tape consisting of 2-4 episodes was common.  Now we can agree that option 3 *is* illegal. You are copying/distributing the content without paying for it.   No one would claim that they were entitled to owning copies of VHS tapes, Laserdiscs, or DVDs.  Digital streaming has sort of allowed this to run rampant without you having to maintain or procure an actual copy of the media.   Imagine it more like broadcasting what you&#039;re watching on a dvd or your vcr to thousands of other people.   The original company/licensor makes *no* money off of this, yet hundreds of people are watching it.  

The  claim that Funimation could have just sent a nice, personal, letter asking you to C&amp;D your activities is rather irrelevant.  First of all, it&#039;s probably a form letter sent out amongst several others to other similar sites; whoever sent it, be it lawyer or intern, doesn&#039;t have the time to address every bloodsucker site individually.  Secondly, why should they bother? You&#039;ve already made a bad impression on them by illegally linking to content that they hold copyright for - you&#039;re stealing from them  (and by proxy, the animation studios that created the content in the first place).   You claim that you offer a way for them to find new viewership, which might be true; but the viewership isn&#039;t paying them anything; and certainly isn&#039;t making any intention to do so.   Do you link to any places where people CAN purchase the things they watch?  Are you setting an example by doing so or reviewing box sets of anime released in your region for purchase? 

Someone made the claim that Funimation could allow their streams to be embedded on other sites: due to bandwidth concerns, this might not be practical.  In addition to streaming commercials; they will rely on other ads on their site, as well as metrics gathered by people visiting their site in order to better target and measure their audience.  

Despite what people might like to think, anime (as well as film, music, and other forms of entertainment) isn&#039;t free.   Claiming that the people criticizing your site isn&#039;t &quot;supporting Funimation&quot;,  it&#039;s supporting the anime industry: an industry that only exists because fans supported it legally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of the comments that are supporting this site and what they&#8217;re are doing aren&#8217;t really sure of the context in which this site exists.  </p>
<p>Anime streaming sites didn&#8217;t exist 10-15 years ago, your options to procur anime were 1) purchase legally licensed/distributed products, 2) acquire fansubs (which certainly weren&#8217;t as easily obtained as they are today, were mostly titles that weren&#8217;t licensed here yet, and nowhere near the quality digital media offers) 3) dub someone elses&#8217;s VHS or LD (ignoring purchasing bootlegged material or fansubs, as they essentially fall under option 3).  Keep in mind anime was a LOT more expensive then, $30-40 for a subtitled VHS tape consisting of 2-4 episodes was common.  Now we can agree that option 3 *is* illegal. You are copying/distributing the content without paying for it.   No one would claim that they were entitled to owning copies of VHS tapes, Laserdiscs, or DVDs.  Digital streaming has sort of allowed this to run rampant without you having to maintain or procure an actual copy of the media.   Imagine it more like broadcasting what you&#8217;re watching on a dvd or your vcr to thousands of other people.   The original company/licensor makes *no* money off of this, yet hundreds of people are watching it.  </p>
<p>The  claim that Funimation could have just sent a nice, personal, letter asking you to C&amp;D your activities is rather irrelevant.  First of all, it&#8217;s probably a form letter sent out amongst several others to other similar sites; whoever sent it, be it lawyer or intern, doesn&#8217;t have the time to address every bloodsucker site individually.  Secondly, why should they bother? You&#8217;ve already made a bad impression on them by illegally linking to content that they hold copyright for &#8211; you&#8217;re stealing from them  (and by proxy, the animation studios that created the content in the first place).   You claim that you offer a way for them to find new viewership, which might be true; but the viewership isn&#8217;t paying them anything; and certainly isn&#8217;t making any intention to do so.   Do you link to any places where people CAN purchase the things they watch?  Are you setting an example by doing so or reviewing box sets of anime released in your region for purchase? </p>
<p>Someone made the claim that Funimation could allow their streams to be embedded on other sites: due to bandwidth concerns, this might not be practical.  In addition to streaming commercials; they will rely on other ads on their site, as well as metrics gathered by people visiting their site in order to better target and measure their audience.  </p>
<p>Despite what people might like to think, anime (as well as film, music, and other forms of entertainment) isn&#8217;t free.   Claiming that the people criticizing your site isn&#8217;t &#8220;supporting Funimation&#8221;,  it&#8217;s supporting the anime industry: an industry that only exists because fans supported it legally.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your posturing of this as if you have some kind of righteous cause is sickening.  We&#039;re not talking about the RIAA suing old ladies whose grand kids downloaded a ....whatever the latest fad is with music 12 year olds like, song.  We&#039;re talking about an industry that can&#039;t even afford to properly stamp you out.  An industry that can do nothing more than send you a letter equivalent to &quot;Hey guys, c&#039;mon, cut it out...  No, seriously, I mean it, stop...  Please?&quot;  You are pouting like a spoiled child whose mommy told him he couldn&#039;t throw his toy airplane in the house.  You keep throwing that airplane and eventually something is gonna break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your posturing of this as if you have some kind of righteous cause is sickening.  We&#8217;re not talking about the RIAA suing old ladies whose grand kids downloaded a &#8230;.whatever the latest fad is with music 12 year olds like, song.  We&#8217;re talking about an industry that can&#8217;t even afford to properly stamp you out.  An industry that can do nothing more than send you a letter equivalent to &#8220;Hey guys, c&#8217;mon, cut it out&#8230;  No, seriously, I mean it, stop&#8230;  Please?&#8221;  You are pouting like a spoiled child whose mommy told him he couldn&#8217;t throw his toy airplane in the house.  You keep throwing that airplane and eventually something is gonna break.</p>
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		<title>By: BruceMcF</title>
		<link>http://www.animesfree.com/we-got-hit-hard-by-dmca/comment-page-2/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>BruceMcF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@deathroy: &quot;bruce shut the fuck up its not your place to try to bash every comment made here that likes and or supports this site and sites like it grow up and get a life&quot;

I did not bash any comment. I certainly disagree with some arguments defending actions by this site that hurt the industry that creates the products that gives life to this site, but I did no bashing. 

@sugarsarah: &quot;i think that bruce guy didnt understand he was talking about the chatngo chat not a mesagebord you post on i cant stand that random chatter either if u have something to say say it if not quit spamming random garbage oh guys keep doing what u do and ill keep coming here to watch&quot;

But how is chatngo chat a reason to avoid legal streaming sites? I don&#039;t see a lot of random chatter on Crunchyroll, and Crunchyroll has switched over completely to helping fans support the industry. And, indeed, there&#039;s nothing &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;forcing&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; AnimesFree to get all of its material from illegal sources - when there is a legal stream, it would be perfectly possibly to have a link that popped up the legal stream in a new window. &quot;All illegal, all the time&quot; is just a decision by the site because its more convenient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@deathroy: &#8220;bruce shut the fuck up its not your place to try to bash every comment made here that likes and or supports this site and sites like it grow up and get a life&#8221;</p>
<p>I did not bash any comment. I certainly disagree with some arguments defending actions by this site that hurt the industry that creates the products that gives life to this site, but I did no bashing. </p>
<p>@sugarsarah: &#8220;i think that bruce guy didnt understand he was talking about the chatngo chat not a mesagebord you post on i cant stand that random chatter either if u have something to say say it if not quit spamming random garbage oh guys keep doing what u do and ill keep coming here to watch&#8221;</p>
<p>But how is chatngo chat a reason to avoid legal streaming sites? I don&#8217;t see a lot of random chatter on Crunchyroll, and Crunchyroll has switched over completely to helping fans support the industry. And, indeed, there&#8217;s nothing <b><i>forcing</i></b> AnimesFree to get all of its material from illegal sources &#8211; when there is a legal stream, it would be perfectly possibly to have a link that popped up the legal stream in a new window. &#8220;All illegal, all the time&#8221; is just a decision by the site because its more convenient.</p>
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		<title>By: sugarsarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sugarsarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with you guys  i love this site dont get to watch much but come here first when i do  whate hatefull said about the chatroom i think that bruce guy didnt understand he was talking about the chatngo chat not a mesagebord you post on i cant stand that random chatter either if u have something to say say it if not quit spamming random garbage oh guys keep doing what u do and ill keep coming here to watch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with you guys  i love this site dont get to watch much but come here first when i do  whate hatefull said about the chatroom i think that bruce guy didnt understand he was talking about the chatngo chat not a mesagebord you post on i cant stand that random chatter either if u have something to say say it if not quit spamming random garbage oh guys keep doing what u do and ill keep coming here to watch</p>
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		<title>By: deathroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>deathroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my name is roy i personaly do not use this site for my own personal resons  but i agree that this and other sites like this are valuable to the industy ive got over 5000 dollars worth of anime in my collcetion so far but i have previewed everyone ive bought on sites just like this  now on a more personal note bruce shut the fuck up its not your place to try to bash every comment made here that likes and or supports this site and sites like it  grow up and get a life  keep up the good work guys   yes shellgirl has a good point these site are for the most part  viruse free sites  and if they did take down the matterial in  question then there is no reason to continue to bash the administraion of this site  they did comply to the order so  back the fuck off you stupid asshole haters</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my name is roy i personaly do not use this site for my own personal resons  but i agree that this and other sites like this are valuable to the industy ive got over 5000 dollars worth of anime in my collcetion so far but i have previewed everyone ive bought on sites just like this  now on a more personal note bruce shut the fuck up its not your place to try to bash every comment made here that likes and or supports this site and sites like it  grow up and get a life  keep up the good work guys   yes shellgirl has a good point these site are for the most part  viruse free sites  and if they did take down the matterial in  question then there is no reason to continue to bash the administraion of this site  they did comply to the order so  back the fuck off you stupid asshole haters</p>
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		<title>By: shelby Snider {Shellgirl}</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelby Snider {Shellgirl}</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another great thing about this website you don&#039;t get any viruses it is viruses free 
so that you can watch or chat all you want to and you want get no viruses see this is a great  website so dmca she leave it alone 
they are just mean and very rude people
they just want to be bullies thats all they are</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another great thing about this website you don&#8217;t get any viruses it is viruses free<br />
so that you can watch or chat all you want to and you want get no viruses see this is a great  website so dmca she leave it alone<br />
they are just mean and very rude people<br />
they just want to be bullies thats all they are</p>
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